RE: [Asrg] Opt-out lists and legislation

[Jason Hihn <jhihn@paytimepayroll.com>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asrg-admin@ietf.org [mailto:asrg-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Chris
> Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:29 PM
> To: Asrg@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Asrg] Opt-out lists and legislation
>
>
> Michael Ellis wrote:
>
> >>It would be particularly difficult to craft legislation that _didn't_
> >>cover everyone involved in a spam, whether the spammer itself, or the
> >>spammed-for person or...  If only by invoking "conspiracy to commit"...
>
> > It would be my opinion that any legislation broad enough to
> cover everyone
> > even with 'conspiracy to commit' would then be struck down as
> unconstitutional
> > by the U.S. supreme Court just like COPA just died
>
> You're thinking way too complicated...
>
> If you pay someone to commit a crime, then you're guilty of that
> crime too.
>
> If spamming US citizens is a crime, then the person in the US who paid
> the, say, Taiwanese bulker, to spam US citizens, is guilty of it too.
>
> Given that something like 80% of spam is flogging US-based services in
> one way or another, that's a huge bite.

You also think that he government has the time and money (or power) to
prosecute these people? You need $5000 in damage just to get the FBI to LOOK
at a domestic cyber crime. Do you think that the FBI, CIA, or Dept. Homeland
Sec. will have the facilities to be effective? And what's in it for a
foreign gov't if you get a foreign government to go after their citizen?

N-o-p-e. Not going to happen.


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