Re: SpamOps claims about Email Authentication and open relays

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Sat, 25 June 2005 21:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: SpamOps claims about Email Authentication and open relays
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> **** is a documented liar, and ****'s associate ****
> (formerly of ****) has been proven in court to be a liar on 3 separate
> court cases.  And ****'s only regret in those cases is that he told the
> court the truth when asked if he had subscribers. **** was shut for
> contempt of court when **** published his blacklist instead of complying
> with a court order to remove false entries.  You should review
> http://www.****.org, although it is not complete.

This sort of assertion really has no place on an IETF list, regardless
of whether it's true. It's as ad hominem as you can get, and that
isn't how we debate here. Facts yes, people no.

Thanks
     Brian


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