Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more.
Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> Sun, 26 June 2005 22:05 UTC
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From: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
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Subject: Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more.
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Mr. Alvestrand's comments certainly demonstrates the animousity of the former chair and they demonstrate his motive for not enforcing the IETF and ISOC Code of Conduct against those making personal attacks against Dean Anderson, Av8 Internet, and perhaps others, such as Dan Bernstein, who were abused but the abuse was never properly redressed, nor were the abusers chastisted or punished in any way. Abuse of Mr. Bernstein by Randy Bush was on the Namedroppers (DNSEXT) list, and included publishing his subscription address enabling forged unsubscriptions, and altering or delaying his messages and other inappropriate "special treatment" for which Mr. Bush was never chastised or punished, nor made to apologize. Mr. Alvestrands recent comments shows again the substance to this complaint: http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg30614.html Therefore, I would like to renew the earlier Code of Conduct complaints made against Mr. Vixie and others, with the additional provision noting the personal hostility of the former chair, Mr. Alvestrand, and his failure to act appropriately regardless of his personal hostility. I believe the IETF owes an apology to Dan Bernstein, Dean Anderson, Av8 Internet, and possibly others. Dean Anderson Av8 Internet, Inc On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > Since I'm no longer responsible for anything that Dean Anderson has a > legitimate role in, and Dean Anderson has proved that he irritates me, I > can stop listening to Dean Anderson. > > Goodbye, mr. Anderson. > > --On 25. juni 2005 20:21 -0400 Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> wrote: > > > > > The IETF cannot accept the statements of known, court-proven liars, nor > > can it suppress this fact in its deliberations. If the IETF accepts > > court-proven and documented liars as reliable sources of fact, then it > > will have no more credibility in its statements, as they will be based on > > lies, not on truth. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000 _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Dean Anderson
- I'm not going to listen to this any more. Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Dean Anderson
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. David Whistler
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Dave Crocker
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Yakov Rekhter
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Doug Royer
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Theodore Ts'o
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Dave Crocker
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Dave Crocker
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Theodore Ts'o
- RE: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Nicholas Staff
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Tim Chown
- RE: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Nicholas Staff
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Dean Anderson
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Theodore Ts'o
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Brian E Carpenter
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Dean Anderson
- Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more. Dean Anderson