Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more.

I have the good fortune to not be subscribed to the
namedroppers list, so I have no familiarity with past
traffic on that list. I think it behooves us all to let
bygones be bygones - I don't see much point in debating
alleged misdeeds of former ADs.

     Brian

Dean Anderson wrote:
> Mr. Alvestrand's comments certainly demonstrates the animousity of the
> former chair and they demonstrate his motive for not enforcing the IETF
> and ISOC Code of Conduct against those making personal attacks against
> Dean Anderson, Av8 Internet, and perhaps others, such as Dan Bernstein,
> who were abused but the abuse was never properly redressed, nor were the
> abusers chastisted or punished in any way.  Abuse of Mr. Bernstein by
> Randy Bush was on the Namedroppers (DNSEXT) list, and included publishing
> his subscription address enabling forged unsubscriptions, and altering or
> delaying his messages and other inappropriate "special treatment" for
> which Mr. Bush was never chastised or punished, nor made to apologize.  
> 
> Mr. Alvestrands recent comments shows again the substance to this
> complaint:
> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg30614.html
> 
> Therefore, I would like to renew the earlier Code of Conduct complaints
> made against Mr. Vixie and others, with the additional provision noting
> the personal hostility of the former chair, Mr. Alvestrand, and his
> failure to act appropriately regardless of his personal hostility.
> 
> I believe the IETF owes an apology to Dan Bernstein, Dean Anderson, Av8
> Internet, and possibly others.
> 
> Dean Anderson
> Av8 Internet, Inc
> 
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> 
> 
>>Since I'm no longer responsible for anything that Dean Anderson has a 
>>legitimate role in, and Dean Anderson has proved that he irritates me, I 
>>can stop listening to Dean Anderson.
>>
>>Goodbye, mr. Anderson.
>>
>>--On 25. juni 2005 20:21 -0400 Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The IETF cannot accept the statements of known, court-proven liars, nor
>>>can it suppress this fact in its deliberations.  If the IETF accepts
>>>court-proven and documented liars as reliable sources of fact, then it
>>>will have no more credibility in its statements, as they will be based on
>>>lies, not on truth.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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