Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more.

[Brian E Carpenter <brc at zurich.ibm.com>]

Nick,

I could, but I won't. You and Dean may not realise just how
annoying and irrelevant your public quarrel is to those of
us who want to focus our time on technical issues.

You two are not alone; we've had other extended public
quarrels on this list. They are never OK. So (and this is
addressed to everybody on the list) if you ever feel the desire
to launch a quarrel or take part in one, please take it
elsewhere. Here, we stick to professional discourse.

    Brian

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Brian E Carpenter
IETF Chair
Distinguished Engineer, Internet Standards & Technology, IBM

Nicholas Staff wrote:
> You could also reasonably rule it obnoxious, childish, and pubescent.
> Moreover since according to your earlier post you don't think fact is an
> acceptable defense of a personal attack your response is at best a curious
> double standard.  Unless of course your comment about it being fact was just
> some snyde payback from an earlier discussion.
>
> Clearly Harald included himself in the conversation for the sole purpose of
> being a jerk and his success in that area was disruptive and deconstructive
> at least for me.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nick Staff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces at ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Brian E Carpenter
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:56 AM
> To: Dean Anderson
> Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand; ietf at ietf.org
> Subject: Re: I'm not going to listen to this any more.
>
> I read it as a statment of fact. I could reasonably rule it irrelevant and
> ask Harald not to repeat it.
>
>      Brian
>
> Dean Anderson wrote:
>
> > This would be a personal attack, I think.
> >
> > 		--Dean
> >
> > On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Since I'm no longer responsible for anything that Dean Anderson has a 
> > > legitimate role in, and Dean Anderson has proved that he irritates me, 
> > > I can stop listening to Dean Anderson.
> > >
> > > Goodbye, mr. Anderson.
> > >
> > > --On 25. juni 2005 20:21 -0400 Dean Anderson <dean at av8.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > The IETF cannot accept the statements of known, court-proven liars, 
> > > > nor can it suppress this fact in its deliberations.  If the IETF 
> > > > accepts court-proven and documented liars as reliable sources of 
> > > > fact, then it will have no more credibility in its statements, as 
> > > > they will be based on lies, not on truth.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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