Re: draft-klensin-nomcom-term-00.txt

"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@mcsr-labs.org> Thu, 28 July 2005 14:21 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins <spencer@mcsr-labs.org>
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Dear John

Just to chime in here...

>
> --On Thursday, 28 July, 2005 15:24 +0200 Brian E Carpenter
> <brc@zurich.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> John C Klensin wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> p.s.  We've got something of a tradition of moving people from
>>> the IESG to the IAB and vice versa.
>> ...
>>> Nothing in the proposal would prohibit them from
>>> ending up on either body "later", even the one they served on
>>> before, but I believe the break is A Good Thing for both the
>>> IETF and the individuals involved.
>>
>> I agree, though my "time off" between the IAB and the IESG
>> turned into "time served" as a WG Chair.
>
> My notion of "break" as used above is not "break from the IETF"
> but "break from the formal, IESG/IAB leadership".   I think
> putting in that time as a WG chair is precisely the sort of
> perspective-regainer that is desirable.  For some people, doing
> the work is better than chairing it, but that is a fine point
> and an individual one.    I also have bias that it would be
> better for the community if people like former IESG and IAB
> members would spend their time mentoring and supporting the next
> round of upcoming leadership rather than taking on, e.g., WG
> Chair roles themselves, but that is, again, an individual matter.

IIRC, Brian ended up serving as co-chair in multi6, at a pretty 
important time in the life of that working group. It was actually A 
Good Thing that Brian was available to serve.

Scott Bradner has served as newtrk chair, and as document editor for 
several of the IPR BCP updates.

Erik Nordmark is now chairing TRILL, which I'm pretty excited about.

So I think Brian's note actually understated the type of Good Thing 
that can happen when experienced IAB and IESG types take a break.

I'm sure other ex-ADs and ex-IAB types have also been significant 
contributors while "taking a break" from formal IETF leadership, and 
don't mean to slight them at all - but these are the folks who have 
crossed my paths in working groups, in the past couple of years.

Spencer 



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