Re: IETF 65 BOF Announcement: Digital Identity Exchange (DIX)

Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net> Mon, 13 February 2006 00:47 UTC

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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:46:49 -0800
From: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
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Subject: Re: IETF 65 BOF Announcement: Digital Identity Exchange (DIX)
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> Actually, my bigger concern is privacy.  I like to decouple the 
> identity I use on different web sites....


Reflecting on the various postings, so far, here is what seems likely to happen 
at the BOF:

1. We will get some presentations, explaining things that we should have read 
before coming to the BOF.

2. Audience participation will immediately bog down about a) related work, b) 
intended goals, and c) security risks.

Worse, all of those concerns are entirely relevant.

And that's why they need to be discussed *before* there is a BOF.  The amount of 
time in a BOF does not permit real discussion, of the type called for, here.

Given the particular nature, complexity, and controversy surrounding the topic 
of online identities, the second BOF will, at best, be only marginally more 
productive.

Unless and until there is ability to have deliberated discussion on the mailing 
list, among a broad spectrum of the IETF community, to refine the draft charter 
and reach a reasonable degree of rough consensus about its scope and 
deliverables and -- not incidentally -- its purpose, this seemed destined for 
getting stuck spinning its wheels during any BOF.

d/

ps. I happen to the the general topic of online identities is rich with 
opportunities to be productive and I am carefully offering no comment about the 
current proposal.  My immediate concern is that we know better than to conduct 
this sort of BOF in this sort of manner.


-- 

Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
<http://bbiw.net>

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