Issue found with BCP 78 version 2
Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Wed, 15 December 2004 07:52 UTC
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Subject: Issue found with BCP 78 version 2
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Folks, the RFC Editor has identified a problem with the current rights draft, and has suggested a fix. If nobody objects to this fix within a day or so, I'll tell them it's OK. I did not want to change this without a public record. Harald ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: onsdag, desember 08, 2004 11:35:00 -0800 From: Bob Braden <braden@ISI.EDU> To: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, sob@harvard.edu, harald@alvestrand.no Cc: smb@research.att.com Subject: Re: authors 48 hours: BCP 78, RFC 3907 <draft-ietf-ipr-subm-rights-fix-00.txt> NOW AVAILABLE Harald, I should explain the nature of the current problem with BCP 79bis, and my perplexity on how to fix it. BCP 78 prescribes copyright boilerplate in an Internet Draft. In practice, the RFC Editor inserts boilerplate that is very slightly different for independent submissions: IETF submissions (text as in BCP 78): This document is subject to the rights, licenses and restrictions contained in BCP 78, and except as set forth therein, the authors retain all their rights. Independent submissions: This document is subject to the rights, licenses and restrictions contained in BCP 78 and at www.rfc-editor.org, and except as set forth therein, the authors retain all their rights. This difference is consistent with the intent of the WG that developed BCP 78, that the RFC Editor should determine the copyright rules for independent submissions. In particular, we have a broader allowance for derivative works, as noted in www.rfc-editor.org/copyright.html. In contrast, Section 5 of BCP 79 prescribes the IPR disclaimer boilerplate that the RFC Editor must put into IETF submissions and all RFC Editor submissions for which IPR has been declared. It has repeatedly been suggested to us that the simplest approach for us is to always put in the disclaimer text, and we have agreed to this. Unfortunately, the prescribed boilerplate includes the sentence: Information on the procedures with respect to rights in RFC documents can be found in BCP 78 and BCP 79. This statement apparently covers BOTH BCP 78 copyright procedures and BCP 79 patent procedures, and it is incomplete in the first case, as noted above. A proposed fix is to insert the following in the IPR boilerplate, Information on the procedures with respect to rights in RFC documents can be found in BCP 78, BCP 79, and at rfc-editor.org. I have discussed this with Scott, and he said it "looks right". But this change will contradict BCP 79bis (as well as BCP 79). Is there a chance we can change BCP 79bis? Thanks, Bob Braden ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg
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