RE: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/RFCs mean?
"Contreras, Jorge" <Jorge.Contreras@wilmerhale.com> Sun, 05 March 2006 23:48 UTC
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Subject: RE: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/RFCs mean?
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Simon -- the IETF copyright covers slightly more than the boilerplate. It also covers the RFC numbering series, as well as the "collective" work formed by the individual contributions by many individual authors, each of whom retains his/her copyright in the contribution. This is explained in the commentary in Scott Bradner's latest I-D revising 3978. See the following language from Sec. 6.1: " The copyright notice also alerts readers that the document is an IETF Document, and that the IETF Trust owns the copyright in the "collective work", as well as certain aspects of the document, such as its layout, the RFC numbering convention and the prefatory language of the document. This legend is not, however, intended to imply that IETF or the IETF Trust owns the text of any Contribution included in an IETF Document. Rather, ownership of such Contributions is retained by the author(s) or remains in the public domain, as applicable, subject only to the licenses granted to IETF and the IETF Trust under Section 3.3 above." Please let us know if you don't think this is laid out clearly enough. Jorge -----Original Message----- From: Simon Josefsson [mailto:jas@extundo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 4:47 PM To: ipr-wg@ietf.org Subject: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/RFCs mean? I'd like to raise a potential issue for the tracker, given the Mankin/Klensin thread on the IETF general list, and the following sentence in the introduction of Joel's draft: This includes copyrights in IETF Internet-Drafts and RFCs. I believe we have established that the copyright statement in I-Ds and RFC only refer to the boiler plate. The IPR Trust doesn't hold a copyright on the content. Discussing this issue in the FAQ on the IETF and RFC editor pages would also be a good idea. It would also be useful to explain when the year in that copyright message has to be updated. I believe we could open and close this issue quickly, to have something to reference when this issue comes up later on. Suggested proposed resolution: The copyright claim in I-Ds and RFCs refer to the boiler plate (e.g., sections "Status of this Memo" and "Intellectual Property"). The copyright of the content remains with the authors of the text (which may include more than the authors specified on the title page). Thanks, Simon "Joel M. Halpern" <joel@stevecrocker.com> writes: > As described by Harald, this draft is currently merely an outline. > And even the structure may change as the working group consensus > appears. If I have made errors in what little content I did put in, > please let me know on the working group list. > > Yours, > Joel M. Halpern, Ed. > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Intellectual Property Rights >> Working Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : Advice to the IAOC on Rights to be Granted >> in IETF RFCs >> Author(s) : J. Halpern >> Filename : draft-ietf-ipr-outbound-rights-00.txt >> Pages : 7 >> Date : 2006-3-4 >> >>The IASA is resposible for managing intellectual property rights on >>behalf of the IETF. This includes the license to copy, implement and >>otherwise use IETF contributions, among them Internet-Drafts and >>RFCs. The IASA takes direction from the IETF regarding the rights to >>be granted. This document describes the desires of the IETF >>regarding rights granted in IETF contributions. >> >>A URL for this Internet-Draft is: >>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipr-outbound-rights-00.txt _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg
- RE: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Contreras, Jorge
- RE: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… John C Klensin
- RE: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… John C Klensin
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… todd glassey
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Bill Fenner
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… todd glassey
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Frank Ellermann
- RE: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Contreras, Jorge
- RE: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Contreras, Jorge
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… todd glassey
- Re: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Simon Josefsson
- RE: ISSUE? What does the copyright claim in I-D/R… Contreras, Jorge
- Date clarification [Re: ISSUE? What does the copy… Brian E Carpenter