Re: Question about timeline

[Simon Josefsson <simon at josefsson.org>]

Frank Ellermann <nobody at xyzzy.claranet.de> writes:

> Simon Josefsson wrote:
>
>> My point is that -incoming shouldn't be approved until there is a
>> working process to give third parties rights according to whatever
>> is in -outgoing.  Publishing the documents at the same time doesn't
>> meet that objective -- rights are not granted to third parties
>> until the IASA reads -outgoing and writes legal text and publish it.
>
> I don't get this, your article started with "obviously":
>
> Obviously outgoing rights MUST be a subset of incoming rights -
> or as IIRC Brian put it you can't give away what you don't have.
>
> So let's say some "incoming" memo covering the "outgoing" ideas
> is approved in May.  Then the trust starts to collect "incoming"
> contributions in May (or after new boilerplates guarantee that
> contributors know that the trust does this).
>
> At the same time or later "outgoing" is approved.  Again later
> the trust creates some magic formulae trying to implement the
> "outgoing" rules.  Then they could wait two months just to see
> what happens (and for the appeal timeout).

My point is that during this time, between when incoming is approved
and when the legal text drafted based on outgoing is actually put into
legal force, third parties have no rights to even distribute any
document that the IETF approve.  That seems sub-optimal to me.

> After that they can state that anything they've collected since
> May (with sufficient "incoming" rights) is covered by the new
> magic formulae implementing "outgoing".

Right.

/Simon


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