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Re: Question about timeline



David - there are many more implications than just that herein. What you are coming to is that the awarding or conveyance of rights into the IETF is a separate function from the IETF's republication of the works under its outgoing rights model.

The problem is much larger than just rights. What you have come to is another flaw in BCP78 in how it absorbs or "plays the Borg" in assimilating the IP sent in. For instance what happens to the rights in IP's which are not republished and redistributed by the IETF?

Todd
----- Original Message ----- From: "David B Harrington" <dbharrington at comcast.net>
To: "'Simon Josefsson'" <simon at josefsson.org>; <ipr-wg at ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: Question about timeline




If we currently do not get from authors all the rights we want to grant, then the outgoing rights cannot be granted until we have the right to grant those rights.

dbh

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Josefsson [mailto:simon at josefsson.org]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:32 PM
To: ipr-wg at ietf.org
Subject: Question about timeline

Will the -incoming document be approved before the IASA have drafted
and approved the legal text that will be used for documents,
presumably based on the approved and published -outgoing document?

I believe approval of -incoming must wait until the outgoing rights
from the IETF Trust to third parties are in place and up and
running.
Otherwise, as far as I can tell, third parties (including RFC
mirrors)
will have no rights to even distribute unmodified copies of
documents
published under the new rules in -incoming.

/Simon

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