Re: Contributions on "other lists"

[Brian E Carpenter <brc at zurich.ibm.com>]

On 2007-04-01 11:55, Frank Ellermann wrote:
> Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>  
> > It's clear enough to me that the definition of "contribution" in
> > RFC 3978 covers this case.
>
> Does "any other list functioning under IETF auspices" cover _all_
> lists noted on the "other lists" page, e.g. the xml2rfc list ?  

IANAL. But it seems to me that the only safe interpretation is yes,
i.e. as far as I'm concerned, I consider the IPR rules to apply
in all these cases.

> One way to reach the "other lists" is www.ietf.org -> maillist.html
> (with a "Note Well") -> maillist-new1.html -> maillist-new4.html ->
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/nwg_list.cgi (other lists).
>
> The "contribution" stuff is constant on that way.  It's also clear
> that some lists are @ietf.org lists, and others are not.  For the
> part about following rules like 3934 it's not clear what owners of
> lists not @ietf.org can do (obviously they can remove their list
> from the "other lists" page).  Is "they can do whatever they wish"
> a good summary ?  In the maze of appeals in conjunction with the
> 2nd PR I lost track what the outcome for "other lists" was... :-(

In my opinion the outcome was that we needed to be more clear in
the posting rights rules, and so far the status is:
http://www.ietf.org/IESG/content/hartmanExpt.html

Section 3 of RFC 4633 offers a definition of "IETF mailing list"
for the purposes of the experiment.

None of which has anything to do with IPR disclosure rules.

    Brian

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