Re: recourse if our rules are violated?

[Todd Glassey <tglassey at earthlink.net>]

The problem Harald is that those are two types of comments that someone who owns and has authoritative knowledge of those rights would have to submit. The other issue you havent dealt with is when someone else files a 'I think there are outstanding IPR issues here' notice. And that should require those people submitting the Work Product to react and either confirm through a license which documents those claims, or a release which clearly states that they are not asserting any claims therin.

Todd


-----Original Message-----
>From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no>
>Sent: Apr 10, 2007 2:44 PM
>To: Frank Ellermann <nobody at xyzzy.claranet.de>, ipr-wg at ietf.org
>Subject: Re: recourse if our rules are violated?
>
>
>
>--On 10. april 2007 20:06 +0200 Frank Ellermann <nobody at xyzzy.claranet.de> 
>wrote:
>
>> John C Klensin wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm not sure what that leads to in terms of IETF procedures.
>>>> We're still left with two choices: ignore the IPR claim or
>>>> ignore the technology.
>>
>>> I would have chosen a different verb than "ignore", but, yes,
>>> that is the problem and, at least, the reason we need to make
>>> careful case-by-case decisions.
>>
>> How about a default rule "remove RFC from standards track" that
>> can be overruled by an IETF consensus ?
>
>Remember that two of the possible kinds of IPR disclosures are:
>
>- "oops, we forgot to tell you about this patent, here's the license that 
>clearly and unambiguously gives you permission to use it in any way you 
>want to"
>
>- "oops, we forgot to tell you about this patent, here's a pile of legal 
>mutterings that tell you absolutely nothing and will leave you wondering 
>about the ability to use the technology for the next 20 years"
>
>and every shade in between.
>I don't like "default" rules.
>
>                    Harald
>
>
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