Re: Section 6.5: Additional Licenses for IETF Contributions

["todd glassey" <tglassey at earthlink.net>]

No Don

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Armstrong" <don at debian.org>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: Section 6.5: Additional Licenses for IETF Contributions


> On Mon, 14 May 2007, todd glassey wrote:
> > John - I am speaking from simple UCC which clearly says any property
> > with a value of more than $500 takes a signature to convey to
> > anyone.
>
> We're not talking about the conveyance of property; we're talking
> about the licensing of a work by a copyright holder.

I disagree. What we are talking about deriviative rights so that the code or 
a derivative copy of it can be used inside a program written by a third 
party. That's part of the Any and All uses clause which is clearly a 
superset of publication rights, or it would say just that "For any and all 
republication purposes and no derivative works"...


> As far as assuring that the copyright holder has actually licensed the
> IETF, there are many methods of doing this, but those are the domain
> of the inbound rights document, not the outbound rights document.\

Again wrong - the IB Rights Statement also needs to codify how those rights 
are mechancially transferred to the IETF or its Trust Entity and how the 
IETF is assured and made clean from liability in recieving things that those 
submitting them dont own.

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