RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI
"Silvano Gai" <sgai@nuovasystems.com> Thu, 26 April 2007 22:29 UTC
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Subject: RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:29:32 -0700
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From: Silvano Gai <sgai@nuovasystems.com>
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I agree, FCoE is being discussed in T11, in the FC-BB working group, as an additional transport for FC. -- Silvano > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Krause [mailto:krause@cup.hp.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:06 PM > To: ips@ietf.org > Subject: RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI > > > Out of curiosity, unless someone is proposing a change in the iSCSI spec > to > accommodate something unique to FCoE, isn't this entire debate really not > an IETF topic? Until the proponents of FCoE make their draft proposals > available for public consumption and debate, this discussion is somewhat > occurring in a vacuum. Same goes for comprehending all that is in > DCE. It needs to be completely public to understand whether what is > proposed makes sense to the broader implementation community w.r.t. to > storage. > > Mike > > > At 02:25 PM 4/26/2007, John Hufferd wrote: > >David, > >The first part of you question has perhaps a different answer than you > >"In other words" part. > > > >The first answer is it communicates the same way a FC adapter > >communicates with iSCSI based storage --- via FC to iSCSI gateways. > > > >The answer you maybe asking (in your Other Words part) is that it is > >possible for a smart NIC that supports maybe iSCSI, TOE, NIC, and even > >perhaps iWARP, to have another interface that supports FCoE. The FCoE > >part would send FC frames through the same NIC that was used by the > >iSCSI part, but the FCoE frames would be headed (without a gateway) to a > >different place then the iSCSI frames were headed. > > > >. > >. > >. > >John L Hufferd > >Sr. Executive Director of Technology > >jhufferd@brocade.com > >Office Phone: (408) 333-5244; eFAX: (408) 904-4688 > >Alt Office Phone: (408) 997-6136; Cell: (408) 627-9606 > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: brown_David1@emc.com [mailto:brown_David1@emc.com] > >Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:49 AM > >To: ips@ietf.org > >Subject: RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI > > > >How would an FCoE-based initiator communicate with iSCSI-based storage? > > > >In other words, can the same host adapter be used for FCoE connections > >and iSCSI sessions, and if so, would the performance be similar? > > > >thanks, > >dj > >________________________________ > > > > From: John Hufferd [mailto:jhufferd@Brocade.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:52 AM > > To: Sandars, Ken; Eddy Quicksall; Julian Satran > > Cc: ips@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > > The term FCoE has as its primary component FC. Consider the > >possibility that the DCE Link from the Host connects to a switch/device > >that is able to deal with the FC part of the FCoE. > > > > > > > > . > > > > . > > > > . > > > > John L Hufferd > > > > Sr. Executive Director of Technology > > > > jhufferd@brocade.com <mailto:jhufferd@brocade.com> > > > > Office Phone: (408) 333-5244; eFAX: (408) 904-4688 > > > > Alt Office Phone: (408) 997-6136; Cell: (408) 627-9606 > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Sandars, Ken [mailto:ken_sandars@adaptec.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:41 PM > > To: John Hufferd; Eddy Quicksall; Julian Satran > > Cc: ips@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > > > > > [Hufferd] Many servers are asking for an evolutionary way to > >combine their Networking connections from the Server. The customers I > >have dealt with do NOT want to rip out FC, they want to provide a single > >Link for transport of all networking needs, including storage, exiting > >their servers. > > > > > > I'm not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying servers > >should have a single type of physical network connection, presumably > >ethernet? How does that align with not wanting to rip out FC? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ken > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Ips mailing list > >Ips@ietf.org > >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ips > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Ips mailing list > >Ips@ietf.org > >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ips > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ips mailing list > Ips@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ips _______________________________________________ Ips mailing list Ips@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ips
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Eddy Quicksall
- [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Eddy Quicksall
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Eddy Quicksall
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Eddy Quicksall
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI John Hufferd
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Sandars, Ken
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI John Hufferd
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Robert Snively
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Silvano Gai
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Silvano Gai
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI brown_David1
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Silvano Gai
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Frank D'Agostino (fdagosti)
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Eddy Quicksall
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI John Hufferd
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI John Hufferd
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Michael Krause
- RE: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Silvano Gai
- Re: FW: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Eddy Quicksall
- RE: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- RE: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Silvano Gai
- RE: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Larry Boucher
- RE: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- RE: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Michael Krause
- RE: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Michael Krause
- RE: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Julian Satran
- RE: [Ips] Recent comments about FCoE and iSCSI Nicholas A. Bellinger