[NSIS] Point 2: dictates that encapsulation of the original initiator QSPEC ...
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>> Point_2: dictates that encapsulation of the original initiator QSPEC >> feature cannot be used in combination with the tunneling (parallel >> session) feature. >> >> In the discussion that we have had in the nsis mailing list and during >> the IETF meeting it was stated that both these features should be >> possible, while now version 13 of the QSPEC template draft dictates >> that these two features cannot be used together and at the same time >> by the same QoS model. >> As I mentioned in all the discussions the encapsulation of the >> original QSPEC feature is needed to satisfy Requirement: >> "5.4.2. It SHOULD be Possible to Add and Remove Local Domain >> Information" given in: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3726.txt >> Therefore the encapsulation (of the original initiator QSPEC into a local >> QSPEC) feature should be seen as an independent feature and it should >> be able to be used in combination with the tunneling (parallel >> session) feature that is used for another goal. >> >> Thus my proposal is that it should be mentioned that even when the >> tunneling (parallel session) feature is used, it is also allowed to >> use, at the same time, the encapsulation (of the original initiator >> QSPEC into a local QSPEC) feature in order to satisfy Requirement >> 5.4.2 of RFC >> 3726. > >I don't see a reason to preclude using, at the same time, both >1. tunneling a QSPEC through a local domain by initiating a >new RESERVE at the domain edge, AND 2. defining a local QSPEC >and encapsulating the initiator QSPEC, as defined in Section >5.1 of the QSPEC draft >http://ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nsis-qspec-13.txt. > >Georgios provided an example based on the RMD-QOSM of when it >would be necessary to use both features at the same time. I >think we're in agreement here. I agree as well. John _______________________________________________ nsis mailing list nsis@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis
- RE: [NSIS] RE: Comments on draft-ietf-nsis-qspec-… Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS
- RE: [NSIS] RE: Comments on draft-ietf-nsis-qspec-… Georgios Karagiannis
- RE: [NSIS] RE: Comments on draft-ietf-nsis-qspec-… john.loughney
- [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC control in… john.loughney
- [NSIS] Point 2: dictates that encapsulation of th… john.loughney
- [NSIS] Point 3: QSPEC template draft dictates whi… john.loughney
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Attila Báder (IJ/ETH)
- Re: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… David R Oran
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Jukka MJ Manner
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Jukka MJ Manner
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Jukka MJ Manner
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… john.loughney
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Jukka MJ Manner
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… john.loughney
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Martin Stiemerling
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Jukka MJ Manner
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… john.loughney
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Bernd Schloer
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Bernd Schloer
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Lars Westberg
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Attila Báder (IJ/ETH)
- RE: [NSIS] Consensus on: Removed the QSPEC contro… Edmundo Monteiro