Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-outbound

["Elwell, John" <john.elwell at siemens.com>]

Christer,

I think Juha's proposed text is clear - I will comment on it separately.
You and Juha seem to make a habit of talking past each other, both on
this thread and on the sip-keep thread. Perhaps the two of you should
have a phone call to sort things out, rather than continuing to
perpetuate these long threads.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sip-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:sip-bounces at ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Christer Holmberg
> Sent: 12 May 2008 08:02
> To: Juha Heinanen
> Cc: sip at ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-outbound
> 
> 
> Juha, maybe the original text IS unclear. But, instead of trying to
> figure out what the text means I try to figure out what you want :)
> 
> Ok, maybe I've missed/missunderstood your earlier description of what
> you want. I will have to take a second look.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:jh at tutpro.com] 
> Sent: 12. toukokuuta 2008 9:44
> To: Christer Holmberg
> Cc: sip at ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-outbound
> 
> Christer Holmberg writes:
> 
>  > My understanding is that it refers to the edge proxies. IF so, that
> says  > nothing about which registrar you are going to reach.
> 
> that is fine with me, because in the very common case that i outlined,
> there are no edge proxies, just two proxy/registrars, for example,
> p1.domain.com and p2.domain.com.  the ob proxy set configured in UAs
> then is [sip:p1.domain.com, sip:p2.domain.com].  simple implementation
> of the common case is possible if ob draft mandates UAs to 
> register via
> at least two ob proxies in the set (if more than one is given).
> 
>  > So, if you want to register to different registrars Outbound is not
> > going to provide that functionality. You may use separate R-URIs in
> your  > REGISTER request, or your home network will take care it.
> 
> looks like you didn't read my email where i described the common case.
> 
>  > Do you want to be able to 1) register via multiple edge proxies
> (which  > Outbound allows you to do), or to 2) register with multiple
> registrars  > (which, in my opinion, is outside the scope of 
> Outbound)?
> 
> see my common case description.
> 
>  > If 1), the following question is: do you want to 3) 
> mandate that one
> > registers via AT LEAST 2 edge proxies, or do you want to 4) mandate
> that  > one registers via ALL edge proxies it is aware of?
> 
> please read the exact text that i provided and let me know if there is
> something unclear in it.  if there is something unclear then, in my
> opinion, also the original text has had to be unclear and has to be
> fixed before it makes sense to continue this discussion.
> 
> -- juha
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