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Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72
This is a really good place to start bashing from. Thanks for going
through the pain it takes to put this together.
Everyone should take note that the second session has a RAI conflict
(with DRINKS) and think through where to put conversations so that
we minimize the pain caused by the necessary split of people.
I think I'd rather see the large, architectural questions,
INFO and Identity, moved into the conflict free spot and
put topics with a smaller constituency into the second session.
I also think people across the working group should chime in with what
they think
the three most important _DRAFTS_ to talk about, in person, at this
meeting are.
I strongly suspect there's a surprise or two that will come out of that.
I'll throw my own list in later (because I want to think awhile about
what's _not_
in the proposed agenda), but to help tune things early:
I do want to talk about 199.
I don't see why we should spend face time on sip-keep at this point.
I think we can get away without face time on record-route fix.
(its unlikely at this late stage that we'll find a crisis to work
through there).
I have received very little feedback on invfix, and I don't think
we need to spend any in-meeting time on the essential
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Subject: Re: [Sip] Draft agenda, SIP at IETF 72
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This is a really good place to start bashing from. Thanks for going
through the pain it takes to put this together.
Everyone should take note that the second session has a RAI conflict
(with DRINKS) and think through where to put conversations so that
we minimize the pain caused by the necessary split of people.
I think I'd rather see the large, architectural questions,
INFO and Identity, moved into the conflict free spot and
put topics with a smaller constituency into the second session.
I also think people across the working group should chime in with what
they think
the three most important _DRAFTS_ to talk about, in person, at this
meeting are.
I strongly suspect there's a surprise or two that will come out of that.
I'll throw my own list in later (because I want to think awhile about
what's _not_
in the proposed agenda), but to help tune things early:
I do want to talk about 199.
I don't see why we should spend face time on sip-keep at this point.
I think we can get away without face time on record-route fix.
(its unlikely at this late stage that we'll find a crisis to work
through there).
I have received very little feedback on invfix, and I don't think
we need to spend any in-meeting time on the essential
corrections process itselss itself. So, I propose we take that entire
topic to the list and/or hallways. I'll take on pushing a few
key folks to review the big recent changes to invfix and
speak up that they've done so before we get to the meetings.
Everybody else: If you hold the token on any of the other drafts and
feel you can
resolve any issues you currently have the same way, I strongly urge
you to propose something similar for your time.
RjS
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Dean Willis wrote:
This is the draft agenda for the SIP meeting at IETF 72 in Dublin.
• Note that this agenda is subject to change based on list
conversations
• Note that we're still trying to work out how to have the
"Identity" discussion
Pretty HTML is at:
http://www.softarmor.com/mediawiki/index.php/SIP_Agenda_IETF_72
Text follows
-----------------
Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Tuesday July 29, 2008,
1300-1500, Convention 3
Agenda Bash
Chairs
10
Using SAML for SIP
Chairs
draft-ietf-sip-saml-04
10
Identify requirements for test matrix to move SIP to Draft Standard
Robert Sparks
draft-sparks-sip-steps-to-draft-00
20
Essential corrections to RFC 3261 (1st batch)
Robert Sparks
draft-sparks-sip-invfix-02
15
Delivery of Request URI and Parameters to UAS Through Proxy
Speaker TBD
draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-02
draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-01
25
Mechanisms for UA Initiated Privacy
Mayumi Munakata
draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-02
15
MIME body handling in SIP
Gonzalo Camarillo
draft-ietf-sip-body-handling-02
15
Guidelines for double route recording
Thomas Froment
draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-03
Time TBD
Keepalive Without Outbound
Christer Holmberg
draft-holmberg-sip-keep-01
10
Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Thursday July 31, 2008,
1510-1610, Convention 3
Agenda Bash
Chairs
5
Termination of early dialog prior to final response
Christer Holmberg
draft-ietf-sip-199-00
20
INFO
Speaker TBD
draft-burger-sip-info-02
draft-kaplan-sip-info-events-01
draft-rosenberg-sip-info-litmus-01
draft-kaplan-sipping-dtmf-package-00
draft-willis-sip-infopackage-00
35
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Use sip-implementors at cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip
Use sipping at ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
Use sip-implementors at cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip
Use sipping at ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
f. So, I propose we take that entire
topic to the list and/or hallways. I'll take on pushing a few
key folks to review the big recent changes to invfix and
speak up that they've done so before we get to the meetings.
Everybody else: If you hold the token on any of the other drafts and
feel you can
resolve any issues you currently have the same way, I strongly urge
you to propose something similar for your time.
RjS
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Dean Willis wrote:
This is the draft agenda for the SIP meeting at IETF 72 in Dublin.
• Note that this agenda is subject to change based on list
conversations
• Note that we're still trying to work out how to have the
"Identity" discussion
Pretty HTML is at:
http://www.softarmor.com/mediawiki/index.php/SIP_Agenda_IETF_72
Text follows
-----------------
Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Tuesday July 29, 2008,
1300-1500, Convention 3
Agenda Bash
Chairs
10
Using SAML for SIP
Chairs
draft-ietf-sip-saml-04
10
Identify requirements for test matrix to move SIP to Draft Standard
Robert Sparks
draft-sparks-sip-steps-to-draft-00
20
Essential corrections to RFC 3261 (1st batch)
Robert Sparks
draft-sparks-sip-invfix-02
15
Delivery of Request URI and Parameters to UAS Through Proxy
Speaker TBD
draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-02
draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-01
25
Mechanisms for UA Initiated Privacy
Mayumi Munakata
draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-02
15
MIME body handling in SIP
Gonzalo Camarillo
draft-ietf-sip-body-handling-02
15
Guidelines for double route recording
Thomas Froment
draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-03
Time TBD
Keepalive Without Outbound
Christer Holmberg
draft-holmberg-sip-keep-01
10
Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Thursday July 31, 2008,
1510-1610, Convention 3
Agenda Bash
Chairs
5
Termination of early dialog prior to final response
Christer Holmberg
draft-ietf-sip-199-00
20
INFO
Speaker TBD
draft-burger-sip-info-02
draft-kaplan-sip-info-events-01
draft-rosenberg-sip-info-litmus-01
draft-kaplan-sipping-dtmf-package-00
draft-willis-sip-infopackage-00
35
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
Use sip-implementors at cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip
Use sipping at ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
_______________________________________________
Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip
This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol
Use sip-implementors at cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip
Use sipping at ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip