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Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-location-conveyance - Question about potential usage of the Geolocation header



Yes, I have, namely the P-Access-Network-Info header.
There are two problems with it:
1. I cannot included called (B) party cell-id in it.
2. RFC says that proxy cannot insert this header, however I guess 3GPP allows P-CSCF to do it. Anyway in my case it will be an IMS AS retrieving location, acting as a proxy.

So I doubt it would be a suited solution.

Bartek

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Subject: Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-location-conveyance - Question about potential usage of the Geolocation header


On Aug 13, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Bartłomiej Kołakowski wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have got such concern regarding location conveyance in SIP
> messages: I am designing IMS Appilcation Server, acting as a proxy, 
> that would query neFrom sip-bounces at ietf.org  Wed Aug 20 10:57:25 2008
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Yes, I have, namely the P-Access-Network-Info header.
There are two problems with it:
1. I cannot included called (B) party cell-id in it.
2. RFC says that proxy cannot insert this header, however I guess 3GPP allows P-CSCF to do it. Anyway in my case it will be an IMS AS retrieving location, acting as a proxy.

So I doubt it would be a suited solution.

Bartek

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Willis [mailto:dean.willis at softarmor.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 7:00 PM
To: Bartłomiej Kołakowski
Cc: draft-ietf-sip-location-conveyance at tools.ietf.org; sip at ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-location-conveyance - Question about potential usage of the Geolocation header


On Aug 13, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Bartłomiej Kołakowski wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have got such concern regarding location conveyance in SIP
> messages: I am designing IMS Appilcation Server, acting as a proxy, 
> that would query network eltwork elements for location information. As you 
> wrote proxies cannot insert message body, so the only way is to 
> provide location by reference. This requires appling SUBSCRIBE- NOTIFY 
> mechanism, which makes the architecture of the solution quit complex.
>
> In order to make it simpler I thought about including location 
> information as locationValue inside the Geolocation header. In fact we 
> do not need location represented with coordinates, but with cell- id 
> (that's mobile network). PIDF-LO does not support it, but maybe inside 
> a header that would be possible? There would be also an issue in 
> indicating loaction target whose location is included (we plan to 
> include both A and B parties location). Geolocation header would look 
> like this:
>
> Geolocation: {cell-id-3gpp} ;location-target="bob at plus.pl";inserted-
> by="las at plus.pl"
>
> What do you think about souch a usage of Geolocation header, maybe you 
> could give us some other solution?
>

have you looked at RC 3455? This defines IMS headers for cell-ID based  
location.

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Dean
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ements for location information. As you 
> wrote proxies cannot insert message body, so the only way is to 
> provide location by reference. This requires appling SUBSCRIBE- NOTIFY 
> mechanism, which makes the architecture of the solution quit complex.
>
> In order to make it simpler I thought about including location 
> information as locationValue inside the Geolocation header. In fact we 
> do not need location represented with coordinates, but with cell- id 
> (that's mobile network). PIDF-LO does not support it, but maybe inside 
> a header that would be possible? There would be also an issue in 
> indicating loaction target whose location is included (we plan to 
> include both A and B parties location). Geolocation header would look 
> like this:
>
> Geolocation: {cell-id-3gpp} ;location-target="bob at plus.pl";inserted-
> by="las at plus.pl"
>
> What do you think about souch a usage of Geolocation header, maybe you 
> could give us some other solution?
>

have you looked at RC 3455? This defines IMS headers for cell-ID based  
location.

--
Dean
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