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Date and time 2008-09-25 15:30
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minutes-interim-2008-iesg-18-200809251530-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 25, 2008 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Ward (Cisco) / Routing Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the September 11, 2008 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 11, 2008 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the public
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 28, 2008 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

o draft-ietf-dnsop-reflectors-are-evil-06.txt (BCP)
o draft-ietf-ipr-3978-incoming-09.txt (BCP)
o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-norm-revised-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sip-answermode-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-reschke-webdav-search-18.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions

o draft-ietf-ipr-outbound-rights-07.txt (Informational)
o draft-ietf-pce-interas-pcecp-reqs-06.txt (Informational)
o draft-iijima-netconf-soap-implementation-10.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

NONE

DELETED:

NONE

IN PROGRESS:

o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
o David Ward to assist IANA on the appropriate notation format for the
4-byte (32-bit) AS numbers.
o Jari Arkko to assist IANA on registration procedures for ARP Hardware
Type.

NEW:

o Cullen Jennings to find an expert for RFC 5341.
o Lisa Dusseault to review the atom link relations request and advise
IANA.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-sipping-race-examples-05.txt - 1 of 5
Example calls flows of race conditions in the Session Initiation Protocol
(SIP) (BCP)
Token: Jon Peterson

The document was removed from the agenda before the start of the
teleconference.

o draft-ietf-capwap-dhc-ac-option-01.txt - 2 of 5
CAPWAP Access Controller DHCP Option (Proposed Standard)
Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

o draft-ietf-ccamp-isis-interas-te-extension-04.txt - 3 of 5
ISIS Extensions in Support of Inter-AS Multiprotocol Label Switching
(MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Traffic Engineering (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gss-v2-05.txt - 4 of 5
RPCSEC_GSS Version 2 (Proposed Standard)
Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Past Eronen and Dan Romascanu.*

o draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-07.txt - 5 of 5
Mobility Services Framework Design (MSFD) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, Cullen Jennings, Tim Polk, and
Magnus Westerlund.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-15.txt - 1 of 2
Generalized MANET Packet/Message Format (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mark Townsley and David Ward.*

o draft-ietf-manet-timetlv-07.txt - 2 of 2
Representing multi-value time in MANETs (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica and David Ward.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
o draft-sanchez-webdav-current-principal-01.txt - 1 of 1
WebDAV Current Principal Extension (Proposed Standard)
Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Lisa Dusseault. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

2.2.2 Returning Item
o draft-wilde-sms-uri-16.txt - 1 of 1
URI Scheme for GSM Short Message Service (Proposed Standard)
Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley, Cullen Jennings, Chris Newman, and Magnus
Westerlund.*

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-capwap-threat-analysis-04.txt - 1 of 1
CAPWAP Threat Analysis for IEEE 802.11 Deployments (Informational)
Token: Dan Romascanu

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Dan Romascanu.

3.1.2 Returning Item

NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item

NONE

3.2.2 Returning Item

NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
o draft-templin-autoconf-dhcp-16.txt - 1 of 2
MANET Autoconfiguration using Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET)
(Informational)
Token: Ross Callon

The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document.
The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message to the RFC Editor
that includes an IESG Note prepared by Ross Callon.

o draft-touch-msword-template-v2.0-07.txt - 2 of 2
Version 2.0 Microsoft Word Template for Creating Internet Drafts and RFCs
(Informational)
Token: Russ Housley

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor
that includes the IESG Note prepared by Russ Housley.

3.3.2 Returning Item

NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
o Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto) - 1 of 1
Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the charter to be prepared by Lisa Dusseault. The Secretariat will send a
WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG
Teleconference (October 9, 2008).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
o Softwires (softwire) - 1 of 1
Token: Mark Townsley

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
6.1 Review of arp-parameters request 2 of 2 [IANA #183428] (Michelle
Cotton)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the arp-parameters
request.

6.2 Large Interim Mtgs (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

6.3 Referencing Non-Standardized Technology in IETF Documents (Dave Ward)

The management issue was not discussed. The IESG postponed this
discussion to a later date.

6.4 Designated expert for RFC 5341 [IANA #194783] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.
Action item: Cullen Jennings to find an expert for RFC 5341.

6.5 Review of atom link relations request [IANA #189665] (Michelle
Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.
Action item: Lisa Dusseault to review the atom link relations request and
advise IANA.

6.6 RFC 3932bis (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

6.7 Appointment IANA Expert for RFC 5389 (Magnus Westerlund)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Dan Wing as the
designated expert to IANA for the STUN (RFC 5389) Registries.

6.8 Executive Session: Appeal Text (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session of the IESG.
A response to the appeal from JFC Morphin was approved.

7. Working Group News We Can Use

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* Please see the ID Tracker
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
on documents that are under discussion by the IESG