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Date and time 2008-10-09 15:30
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minutes-interim-2008-iesg-19-200810091530-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 9, 2008 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems)/ Applications Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC)/ IAD
Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Ward (Cisco) / Routing Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the September 25, 2008 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 25, 2008 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the September 25, 2008 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

o draft-ietf-btns-core-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-dnsext-2929bis-07.txt (BCP)
o draft-ietf-msec-ipsec-extensions-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-pim-join-attributes-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sip-ice-option-tag-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-14.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions

o draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-07.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

NONE

DELETED:

NONE

IN PROGRESS:

o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
o David Ward to assist IANA on the appropriate notation format for the
4-byte (32-bit) AS numbers.
o Jari Arkko to assist IANA on registration procedures for ARP Hardware
Type.
o Cullen Jennings to find an expert for RFC 5341.
o Lisa Dusseault to review the atom link relations request and advise
IANA.

NEW:

o Chris Newman to write a response to the query on what the IESG Statement on
Spam Control means. o Dave Ward to write up a project plan to document RSYNC o
Russ Housley and Dave Ward to write the BCP 115 Exception Last Call.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-toffset-07.txt - 1 of 6
Transmission Time offsets in RTP streams (Proposed Standard)
Token: Cullen Jennings

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Cullen Jennings.

o draft-ietf-sipping-race-examples-06.txt - 2 of 6
Example calls flows of race conditions in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
(BCP) Token: Jon Peterson

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

o draft-ietf-forces-model-16.txt - 3 of 6
ForCES Forwarding Element Model (Proposed Standard)
Token: Ross Callon

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Ross Callon. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

o draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-13.txt - 4 of 6
CAPWAP Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard)
Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Chris Newman, Tim Polk, and Magnus Westerlund.*

o draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-10.txt - 5 of 6
CAPWAP Protocol Binding for IEEE 802.11 (Proposed Standard)
Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Magnus Westerlund.*

o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-g711wb-03.txt - 6 of 6
RTP Payload Format for ITU-T Recommendation G.711.1 (Proposed Standard)
Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Magnus Westerlund.*

2.1.2 Returning Item

NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item

NONE

2.2.2 Returning Item

NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item

NONE

3.1.2 Returning Item

NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
o draft-bryant-mpls-tp-jwt-report-00.txt - 1 of 1
JWT Report on MPLS Architectural Considerations for a Transport Profile
(Informational) Token: David Ward

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Dave Ward. The Secretariat will send an individual submission
Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

3.2.2 Returning Item

NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
o draft-santoni-timestampeddata-04.txt - 1 of 1
Syntax for binding documents with time stamps (Informational)
Token: Tim Polk

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Tim Polk.

3.3.2 Returning Item
o draft-munakata-sip-privacy-guideline-04.txt - 1 of 2
Guidelines for Using the Privacy Mechanism for SIP (Informational)
Token: Jon Peterson

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor
that includes the IESG Note prepared by Jon Peterson.

o draft-templin-autoconf-dhcp-16.txt - 2 of 2
MANET Autoconfiguration using Virtual Enterprise Traversal (VET) (Informational)
Token: Ross Callon

The IESG requested this document return to the IESG Teleconference Agenda for
October 23, 2008.

3.3.3 For Action
o draft-bberry-rfc4938bis-00.txt - 1 of 1
PPP Over Ethernet (PPPoE) Extensions for Credit Flow and Link Metrics
(Informational) Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Mark Townsley.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
o Simple Authentication and Security Layer (sasl) - 1 of 1
Token: Pasi Eronen

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate
message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG teleconference (October 23, 2008)

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
6.1 Referencing Non-Standardized Technology in IETF Documents (Dave Ward)

The management issue was discussed.
Action item: Dave Ward to write up a project plan to document RSYNC
Action item: Russ Housley and Dave Ward to write the BCP 115 Exception Last
Call.

6.2 Expert Review for tel reg (Cullen Jennings)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Vijay Gurbani as the
designated expert for the ñtel URI Parametersî Registry.

6.3 Large Interim Meeting in January 2009 (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

6.4 What does the IESG statement on SPAM control mean (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.
Action item: Chris Newman to write a response to the query on what the IESG
Statement on Spam Control means.

6.5 FORCES Working Group (Mark Townsley)

The management issue was discussed.

6.6 v4-v6 Co-existence Work (Magnus Westerlund)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News We Can Use

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* Please see the ID Tracker
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
on documents that are under discussion by the IESG